tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.comments2023-06-01T04:40:50.865-07:00China Fraud PatrolAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00907524250006769550noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-80335723371330840412014-07-10T15:34:54.597-07:002014-07-10T15:34:54.597-07:00China is notorious for thieves! Every job I had of...China is notorious for thieves! Every job I had offered were from someone on your list. Ivy Wan, especially selling Shanghai University jobs with high pay. I emailed her back after reading your post, and mentioned that "Black List" is next to her role as a recruiter. Have not heard back from her. My advice to anyone seeking work in China. Check out the schools first, they should be aware of their new openings. Shefahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11769358020254150477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-35447660509331425812014-05-08T01:49:19.341-07:002014-05-08T01:49:19.341-07:00You need to get up to speed dear... These days she...You need to get up to speed dear... These days she has hired two foreign expats to recruit for her. One uses the name "David Valley" and the other uses only the name "Jimmy". For all we know, he may be the same guy just changing his name every two weeks. Hendersonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-61534546599248419812013-12-20T12:03:39.818-08:002013-12-20T12:03:39.818-08:00Hi, if they have so many people being trapped in t...Hi, if they have so many people being trapped in their scam then why isn't there much feedback from them online? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-25017476439583478622013-08-10T22:39:21.842-07:002013-08-10T22:39:21.842-07:00UPDATE: These folks have apparently hired a hacke...UPDATE: These folks have apparently hired a hacker to remove all the negative posts about them on line. Three months ago there were 53 links to complaints and now we can only find a dozen. It appears that these are very bold, devious, and resourceful con artists.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00907524250006769550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-77008926774564652612013-08-10T22:36:05.400-07:002013-08-10T22:36:05.400-07:00UPDATE: We have received another third party conf...UPDATE: We have received another third party confirmation that Craig Hill is an active recruiter for China ESL but that his romance with Rebecca has been long over. Craig is the owner of the China Daily Mail - a blog scam that you can read about here...<br /><br />http://chinadailymailscam.wordpress.co.uk<br /><br />Birds of a feather...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00907524250006769550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-16494023909369266042013-08-10T22:32:58.185-07:002013-08-10T22:32:58.185-07:00Just an update... Three more foreign expat teacher...Just an update... Three more foreign expat teachers have complained about these bandits and the CFTU says the Ministry of Justice assigned an investigator two weeks ago. Gosh, the wheels of Justice turn quite slow in China.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00907524250006769550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-56437032009417150422013-08-10T22:30:38.429-07:002013-08-10T22:30:38.429-07:00Yes, I also noticed the same thing... But here is ...Yes, I also noticed the same thing... But here is one he missed...<br /><br />http://chinadailymailscam.wordpress.comAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00907524250006769550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-88583354207823326462013-08-10T22:27:03.037-07:002013-08-10T22:27:03.037-07:00Apparently Craig Hill has hired a hacker recently ...Apparently Craig Hill has hired a hacker recently to start deleting all the fraud warnings and scam alerts that were posted about him and his China Daily Mail Identity Theft Scam. <br /><br />I counted 47 links to him about two months ago and today I can only find nine! Nice job Craig, but we already have your number!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-65355800770636331472013-08-10T22:23:09.470-07:002013-08-10T22:23:09.470-07:00By no means is CRCC the only company being blasted...By no means is CRCC the only company being blasted with scam allegations. i-to-i and www.OnlineTEFL.com has received over 3 dozen complaints in the last six months alone. People need to be very weary about agents outside of China that are not registered inside of China where the law can go after them if there is fraud involved. <br /><br />We have 5 suggestions for anyone that wantsto do an internship in China...<br /><br />1) Find an use an internship company inside of China that is registered and has at least a 5 year track record that is owned by foreigners - NOT Chinese.<br /><br />2) Make sure there is a 100% refund policy if you do not get a placement within a reasonable amount of time.<br /><br />3) Be sure you are not forced to take the first company that wants an intern. You should have at least a second choice.<br /><br />4) Insist on knowing what is included and not included in your internship packages. Most surprises in China are unpleasant ones.<br /><br />5. If you have a good or bad experience, please come back here and share it with others!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00907524250006769550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-25801188066405559822013-08-09T09:07:56.907-07:002013-08-09T09:07:56.907-07:00Be sure you know about their internship scams as w...Be sure you know about their internship scams as well. These are very diversified fraudsters with a woman name Helen Hargreaves running the show in London.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-46951388025493315432013-08-03T08:32:25.636-07:002013-08-03T08:32:25.636-07:00Another bull***t "company" is Getin2Chin...Another bull***t "company" is Getin2China! I was dumb enough to pay the $300 deposit but after they failed to find me an internship I demanded a refund (it's included in their terms and conditions which I read after I waited 5 months for them to find me an internship) and to this day I am still waiting for my refund which they claimed to have paid "a long time ago". I can't take it up with PayPal because the payment cleared well over 45 days ago (in January!!!) but seriously don't ever bother with any of these China internship companies. It's better to go directly to a company to seek work than any of these scams. No matter how much they try to pour glitter over poo that's what they are - SCAMS!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-42056718503811828352013-07-30T02:02:48.784-07:002013-07-30T02:02:48.784-07:00Go Abroad China (GAC) are a scam internship compan...Go Abroad China (GAC) are a scam internship company as well. Be very careful of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-42236608908842333652013-07-29T03:03:43.625-07:002013-07-29T03:03:43.625-07:00I was never happy with the internship. A lot of my...I was never happy with the internship. A lot of my fellow interns were not happy too. CRCC was powerless when it came to raising our problems and concerns with our employers. They also will keep you inside an invisible dome, away from possible opportunities in China. Others chose to remain silent, probably because their experience was so-so, or they belong to the 10% that probably found some meaning with their internships.<br /><br />We were given a survey at the end of our internships and most wrote they will never recommend CRCC. I think what is lacking is the amount of formal complaints.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-21877789188844505402013-06-24T15:48:35.569-07:002013-06-24T15:48:35.569-07:00Hey! A lot of people say a lot of good things abo...Hey! A lot of people say a lot of good things about CRCC so stop bashing them. Here is someone who actually claims to have used them:<br /><br />http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=1726536&page=2Cherylnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-90827676539537159142013-06-24T04:28:29.659-07:002013-06-24T04:28:29.659-07:00More deletions from the same web site:
All in al...More deletions from the same web site:<br /><br /><br />All in all the CRCC marketing people get an A+ for spamming their crap all over the internet but they get an F for the truth. They are clearly leading people down a gold-plated path paved with lies. The problem is their fabrications far outnumber the complaints online which people seldom see unless they dig past page 10 on their search engines. This is a bloody scam for sure.<br />.Top <br /><br />Reply..Fri, 06/14/2013 - 10:56 #8 . By: Mel <br />Age: 28<br /><br />CRCC Asia Scammers "Editing" Their Website Now For Convenience <br />What a convenient response CRCC! Just last week and for the last few years (according to other posts at the below links) you were advertising "paid internships" and just NOW after someone points out that is against China law to pay interns a salary, you suddenly claim you do not do it and delete your "paid internship" words from your website! Let's be consistent here - or at least try. Read these links and you will see that you have offered many illegal "paid internships" in the past to people and even the New York Times article says so!<br /><br />Also, there are other more disturbing discrepancies point out by ScamAdvisor and Scam.com about where your company is located and who owns it. Read for yourself -<br /><br />"Analysis Details:-<br />Although this website appears to be based in Germany there are other countries involved and you should review this information carefully and decide if it is as you expect.<br />Scamadviser has detected negative online feedback associated with this company so you may want to do further checks."<br /><br />Above taken from: http://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/crccasia.com <br /><br />And Scam.com says that the CRCC company is registered to a non-existent third party.<br /><br />CRCC further tell people to get "unbiased reviews" at links they provide (all paid review sites full of their own shills. These sites will publish whatever you want so long as you pay them money) but they never tell you to go to yahoo and just search or you'd find this-<br /><br />http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130520013320AAKutvN <br /><br />If you keep searching you may even find what U.K. students have to say at these links:<br /><br />http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/anyone-heard-of-crcc-asia<br /><br />http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?p=42899270&highlight=CRCC scam<br /><br />Cliffordnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-55537553652539188522013-06-18T05:05:43.903-07:002013-06-18T05:05:43.903-07:00This CRCC outfit is telling people to work on an F...This CRCC outfit is telling people to work on an F visa which is 200% illegal. Since the "F" visa will no longer exist as of July 1st, 2013, I wonder what they will be telling their victims then? But I must admit one thing... This is one of the most believable scams I have come across in my eight years in China. If I was a young university grad, I myself would probably have stepped in this bullshit too. Just like real shit, the older it is, the less it smells. The less it smells, the harder it is to find and identify. This shit from what I can tell is more than two years old. I guess in China we get so used to scams we lose our sense of smell.Klausnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-44061091272030562692013-06-18T04:50:05.693-07:002013-06-18T04:50:05.693-07:00Talk about audacity! In a time when unemployment i...Talk about audacity! In a time when unemployment is so high in the West, these greedy slimeballs are selling the privilege of working for free! Then to rub salt in the wounds of their gullible twit victims, they make them pay air fare so they can get screwed in a foreign country where there is no legal recourse. What a brilliant scam!Outragednoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-67863562340062646882013-06-16T03:59:06.707-07:002013-06-16T03:59:06.707-07:00I don't think this company is any different th...I don't think this company is any different than any other Chinese company. They are all greedy and they bend the truth for the sake of sales. No matter what people say on line, they will pay some SEO guy a few dollars to make all the bad stuff disappear. The fact they gave been doing business so long proves my point.<br /><br />Two years ago I was contacted by some sale rep from CRCC asking me if I wanted a "free foreign intern" for my import-export company. Of course I was curious enough to read the material he sent me and I read the links and visited the web site. I was impressed with his presentation enough that I did some research on line. I found enough negative posts that killed my interest. Today I see most of those posts are gone and replaced with glowing "testimonials". Today it is too easy for companies to create their own buzz on line with fragrant rose posts and hide all that smells like dog shit. <br /><br />Scams in China don't get shut down. They become a source of income for local officials. Bribes are just part of the cost of doing business over there. I worked over there for seven years and this reality became obvious to me in my first year of doing business. It is good to be back home in California.Been There - Done Thatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-22725478406358331472013-06-16T02:44:48.378-07:002013-06-16T02:44:48.378-07:00CRCC and China Solutions are two different compani...CRCC and China Solutions are two different companies. I can't understand why anyone would pay money for an internship in China when they can just go to the Beijinger expat forum and find a real job in less than a week. I am shocked that companies like this can actually turn a profit.Amandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-8121463974760524372013-06-15T15:01:29.228-07:002013-06-15T15:01:29.228-07:00I agree with you Bulldog. If you call a company th...I agree with you Bulldog. If you call a company they should be able to tell you who the owners are straight away if they have nothing to hide.Renonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-16368127462909539172013-06-15T10:12:05.090-07:002013-06-15T10:12:05.090-07:00Viper is right - someone has been deleting negativ...Viper is right - someone has been deleting negative posts about CRCC from the internet. This Google link is now broken and last week there were six comments at the site about CRCC and only one of them had something good to say;<br /><br />Job Discussion Forums :: View topic - Beware of CRCC Fake Paid ...<br />forums.eslcafe.com › ... › China (Job-related Posts Only)<br />May 30, 2013 - 9 posts - 6 authors<br /><br />Also, from the Google cache I was able to copy this post which was deleted from teflnet.com within the last few days as well;<br /><br />Warning! CRCC Internship China Scam - CRCCAsia.com<br />by Sanchez » Sun May 26, 2013 1:20 am <br /><br />My sister just got ripped off by these con artists and I want everyone to know that they cannot be believed. She paid $3,000 for an internship in China to work in "International Trade" as a broker and after paying another $1,100 for air fare and her visa and 1,000 for an apartment, she gets to China and is given a job handing out flyers on a street corner and then sending 150 emails every day for a Chinese company that has six different web sites and sells fake products on Ali-Baba! They told her "the company does over $3 million a year in international trade" and therefore she got her wish to work with an "International Trade Company"!!!!! I found this link an hour ago:<br /><br />http://chinafraudpatrol.blogspot.com<br /><br />I can think of better ways to lose $5,100 in China - like booze and hookers!<br /><br /><br />Re: Warning! CRCC Internship China Scam - CRCCAsia.com<br />by FranklyFrank » Wed May 29, 2013 12:13 am <br /><br />Here is the only and best internship in China: http://www.ciscglobal.com/ It is called CISC Global and my best friend an I used them and had no complaints at all. We give them a 10!<br />FranklyFrank <br /><br />Re: Warning! CRCC Internship China Scam - CRCCAsia.com<br />by Venus » Sat Jun 01, 2013 12:14 am <br /><br />Frankly Frank, I think you are a spammer! Thanks OP for the alert. Here are some other links that suggest you may be right about the CRCC China internship scam,<br /><br />http://www.esl-jobs-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=13382<br />Why?noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-4223918951051990792013-06-14T05:12:13.728-07:002013-06-14T05:12:13.728-07:00This is what Scam.com had said about these guys......This is what Scam.com had said about these guys...<br /><br />http://www.realscam.com/attachments/f8/4335d1371053204-beware-crcc-fake-china-internship-fraud-targeting-unemployed-university-students-nomaxim.jpg<br /><br />A legitimate company has no need to change their name and web site address so many times, nor should they refuse to give the name of the owners. Today I called and politely asked for the name and mailing address of the company president to see if was Daniel Nivern or Edward Pearce but I was told to send an email to the customer service dept!Bulldognoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-63908226000287156852013-06-13T16:57:31.296-07:002013-06-13T16:57:31.296-07:00Nice Try CRCC but I can't believe a word you s...Nice Try CRCC but I can't believe a word you say after learning that two of your own employees were caught making fake YouTube testimonials and that your company claims to be be operating since 2006 but Scam.com and Internet Registration records indicate you have only been operating a website since 2011! Also note that they operate 90 other websites and changed their domain 5 times...<br /><br />Reverse Whois:<br />"China Consulting Ltd" owns about1 other domains<br />Registrar History:<br />1 registrar<br />NS History:<br />5 changes on 3 unique name servers over 4 years.<br />IP History:<br />8 changes on 6 unique IP addresses over 4 years.<br />Whois History:<br />72 records have been archived since 2009-02-05 .<br />Reverse IP:<br />90 other sites hosted on this server.<br /><br />Of th e90 other web sites owned by Edward Royce I traced 8 of them to "Internship Review Sites" which are supposed to be "unbiased" but which all give raving reviews about CRCC! 6 ther domains are linked to blogs about "Working Overseas" and guess what? They all plug CRCCAsia.com with links directly to their website!!! Gee, what a surprise heh?<br /><br />I also noticed all the "404 Errors" that pop up now when people try to connect to the complaints about your company. Since I work for an IT company as a technician I am well aware you are using a hacker to clean-up your bad reputation on line by corrupting links. Hiding the truth is something you guys do pretty well. Rather than buy into your rebuttal, I think I will believe the facts I found here<br /><br />https://www.ripoffreport.com/r/CRCCasiacom-aka-CRCC-China-Internships/internet/CRCCasiacom-aka-CRCC-China-Internships-Classic-Bait-Switch-Scam-That-Targets-Univers-1058346<br /><br />http://www.abroadreviews.com/scam-alert-crcc-china-internships-are-fraud<br /><br />http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20130520013320AAKutvN<br /><br />http://chinascampatrol.wordpress.com/2013/05/23/china-work-abroad-scams-growing-blacklist-whitelists-now-being-compiled-your-help-requested/<br /><br />In summary I think it is shameless for CRCC to now want us to believe an "envious competitor" is responsible for all their troubles and complaints. This is even worse than the last time in 2011 when they tried to blame "a disgruntled employee"!<br /><br />Pacmannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-6342795088172132522013-06-13T06:03:15.146-07:002013-06-13T06:03:15.146-07:00We are now aware that CRCC Asia is sadly the victi...We are now aware that CRCC Asia is sadly the victim of a malicious campaign by a competitor to discredit our Award winning service through a coordinated strategy of posting inaccurate and defamatory information. Instead of pander to this distasteful attack, we are seeing it as a platform to further show the key credentials that have made CRCC Asia the number one organization that provides internships in China, and we encourage all potential applicants to look at our website, speak with our 3000 alumni and read why the company received a British government award for the work that we do in furthering youth links with China. This attack also strengthens our conviction that anyone who is interested in studying abroad or interning in China should fully do their research before choosing an organization, to ensure that they go with the most professional company available.<br /><br />CRCC Asiahttp://www.crccasia.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4228173446651399859.post-48382164760245814122013-06-12T10:02:12.086-07:002013-06-12T10:02:12.086-07:00We are now aware that CRCC Asia may be a victim of...We are now aware that CRCC Asia may be a victim of a malicious campaign by a competitor to discredit our Award winning service through a coordinated strategy of posting inaccurate and defamatory information. Instead of pander to this distasteful attack, we see it as a platform to further show the key credentials that have made CRCC Asia the number one organization that provides internships in China, and we encourage all potential applicants to look at our website, speak with our 3000 alumni and read why the company received a British government award for the work that we do in furthering youth links with China.<br /><br />CRCC Asia has been providing internships in China for eight years and we are the market leader in this sector, having arranged over 3000 placements for students from over 150 countries worldwide.<br /><br />Awards: We have won two very competitive Awards for our program – The Cathay Pacific China Business Awards and The British Business Awards, sponsored by the UK government. - http://www.britishbusinessawards.cn/crcc-asia/<br /><br />Media: We have had extensive coverage from various media including The Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, Bloomberg, The BBC and many more. The links to the original articles can all be found on our media page - http://www.crccasia.com/about-us/media-coverage/ - and you can contact the publications directly to request a copy of the article if required.<br /><br />Testimonials: We have numerous partnerships with universities around the world and we have alumni who would be delighted to be contacted to tell you more. We would also be happy to put anyone in direct contact with our partner universities who can tell you about our program and would happily provide references. Please see our testimonials, all of which can be independently verified - http://www.crccasia.com/testimonials-media/testimonials/<br /><br />Visas: For anyone interested in information about getting the correct F visa for a China internship, which is what we issue to all of our interns, please visit the website for China's Embassy. There is a comprehensive article about business visas and you will find that they are suitable for internships for periods up to six months. In order to issue this visa an invitation letter from one of our host companies is required so all of our interns know prior to departure the name, address and information for the company they will be working for. We ensure that every single one of our interns is on the correct F visa and we are one of the few organizations that oversee this whole process on behalf of the intern. We recommend that any prospective intern researches this aspect of service to ensure that his or her chosen China Program provider is doing this process correctly. <br /><br />Video: Our YouTube video clearly shows what our program looks like on the ground and is great to watch - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-QXLxhXfiI. Several members of our team are featured in the video and you can call any of our offices at any time to speak to them.<br /><br />Global Offices: If you have any further concerns or queries, then please feel free to drop by or call any of our 8 global offices, in London, San Francisco, Pennsylvania, Beijing, Shanghai, Venice and Sydney. Offices are open Monday to Friday, from 9am to 6pm (in their local time zone) which means there will always be someone at the end of the phone who is happy to help. Due to our global offices, we can be contacted 24 hours per day, which allows parents or students to feel confident that there is always someone to talk to. You can alternatively contact us at directors@crccasia.com for any further information.<br /><br />Thank you again for reading this. The original post is sadly full of incorrect and slanderous information which may very well be written by another organization that is envious of CRCC Asia’s success, popularity and growth. It is for this reason that we encourage any prospective candidate to fully research CRCC Asia against that of any other and we are certain that you will be happy with our service, credibility and background. <br /><br />Best Regards,<br /><br />Oliver Wilson<br />CRCC AsiaOlivernoreply@blogger.com